Ives of Kermartin vs. Arnulf of Metz

At the midway point of the Elate Eight, the onslaught of saintly kitsch continues as Ives of Kermartin squares off against Arnulf of Metz. To get to the Elate Eight, Ives bested Jacapone da Todi and Dunstan, while Arnulf took out Vincent Saragossa and Egeria.

Yesterday Absalom Jones advanced to the faithful four, taking down Catherine Booth 55% to 45%.

Time to head to the voting booth!

Ives of Kermartin

St. Ives of Kermartin, St. Yves, St. Ivo, St. Yvo, St. Erwan, St. Iwan, St. Youenn, St. Eozenn, Yves Hélory.

Advocate of the Poor, Defender of Widows, Ideal of the Legal Profession, Patron Saint of Attorneys.

Ives is known by many names and honorary titles. Nonetheless, his dedication to the law and devotion to fairness while meshing with his faith are admired, heralded, and emulated. Remarkably, you’ll see  tributes to Ives pop up in all sorts of places.

In the United States and throughout Europe to the Middle East, legal organizations are named in his honor. The Society of St. Yves is a Catholic human rights organization based in Jerusalem. St. Ives Chambers is a law partnership in London, and the Conférence Saint Yves, or the Association de la Saint Yves Lyonnais, is the Luxembourg Catholic Lawyers Association.

Schools named for him include St. Ivo Academy in Cambridgeshire, United Kingdom, and Saint Ivo’s College in Belgium was founded 1483 (that’s more than 500 years ago!).

His image shines in stained glass windows and his face has graced canvasses by such great artists as Rogier van der Weyden, Lucas van Uden, Josse van der Baren, Jaques Jordaens, and Jacopo da Empoli. A church is named for him in Brittany, France, while an ornate wall hanging is featured in Waldkirch, Baden-Württemberg, Germany.

A delightful Ives sculpture is located on the campus of Northwestern University in Chicago, while there is an impressive statue of him in Prague.

You can read about him in “Law, Justice and Mediation: The Legend of St. Yves.”

 

France honored Ives in 1956 with a stamp.

You can view his relics, including his skull, in Treguier in France.

To keep Ives close to you, wear a shirt emblazoned with the school motto, frame and hang painting reprints, drink from a, Ives mug, or keep from losing your keys with a key chain featuring his visage.

–Neva Rae Fox

Arnulf of Metz
Saint Arnulf of Metz (582-685) has inspired many over the centuries. And so whether it’s a signature IPA, an Imperial Stout, an OctoberFest Ale, or their magnificent Root Beer, pour yourself a glass of Saint Arnold’s into your “Bless me father for I have beered” pint glass and celebrate Saint Arnulf (Arnold) of Metz, patron saint of brewers.

Remembering the royal offspring that would come from Arnulf, we will make sure to dress appropriately for our celebration: put on a t-shirt bearing one of Arnulf’s great quotes: “From man’s sweat and God’s love, beer came into the world.” If you’re feeling fancy and festive, you might even put on these amazing “beerings” with the image of the Saint on them.

At the end of the day, you may find yourself too worn out for the drive home – perhaps you even spent too much time following Arnulf’s advice: “Don’t drink the water, drink the beer.” Being a safe and good citizen, you call for an Uber. Who could expect that the Saint Arnold art car would take you safely back to your home? All eyes are on you as roll through the streets of Houston in this mobile masterpiece.

Coming home, you recall Arnulf’s hospitality to the poor travelers who came to Metz – the ways in which he gave warmth and shelter to them all. You wrap yourself in your blanket that is adorned with the Coat of Arms of Arnulf’s powerful descendant Charlemagne, and prepare to rest for the night.

–David Hansen

Ives of Kermartin vs. Arnulf of Metz

  • Ives of Kermartin (62%, 3,531 Votes)
  • Arnulf of Metz (38%, 2,190 Votes)

Total Voters: 5,721

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86 Comments to "Ives of Kermartin vs. Arnulf of Metz"

  1. John Cabot's Gravatar John Cabot
    March 25, 2021 - 8:04 am | Permalink

    For St. Ives of Kermartin, each case
    Was a challenge he faced with good grace;
    Not a box (you may fear)
    Holding twelve cans of beer,
    But a chance to help justice take place.

    • Pat Lynch's Gravatar Pat Lynch
      March 25, 2021 - 7:40 pm | Permalink

      John your limerick was the best part of today’s voting process for me.

  2. CB Clinton's Gravatar CB Clinton
    March 25, 2021 - 8:09 am | Permalink

    The car is impressive but 26 years of sobriety compels me to honor His Honor.

    • Susan Lee Hauser's Gravatar Susan Lee Hauser
      March 25, 2021 - 11:20 am | Permalink

      Congratulations on your 26 years!

    • St. Celia's Gravatar St. Celia
      March 25, 2021 - 11:26 am | Permalink

      Hi, CB! Congratulations!

    • KarenR's Gravatar KarenR
      March 25, 2021 - 1:23 pm | Permalink

      No easy feat. Congratulations on 26 years. I too voted for St. Ives, with prayers for a country of laws and justice.

    • Mariclaire Buckley's Gravatar Mariclaire Buckley
      March 25, 2021 - 8:29 pm | Permalink

      Well done! Extremely impressive!

    • Richard L Harvey's Gravatar Richard L Harvey
      March 26, 2021 - 7:12 am | Permalink

      As I was going to St. Ives I met a man with 7 wives….

      • Linda Maloney's Gravatar Linda Maloney
        March 27, 2021 - 5:17 am | Permalink

        At last! That was the first line that entered my head when St. Ives came up, and I‘ve been amazed not to see it before. (Of course, I haven‘t been scouring the comments.) I sent the matchup to my daughter the Philadelphia lawyer, but she writes that she‘s ‚way ahead of me, and of course voted for Ives.

  3. Ann's Gravatar Ann
    March 25, 2021 - 8:11 am | Permalink

    In 2015, Bridget won The Silver Halo and we had a pint glass in her honor. I treasure mine! Remembering Bridget, the Lake of Beer, and the pint glass, today, I need to vote for Arnulf! (maybe we’ll get a second pint glass this year). Great kitsch for both today!

    • Chris's Gravatar Chris
      March 25, 2021 - 9:33 am | Permalink

      There was also a pint glass when Dietrich Bonhoeffer won the golden halo in 2016. I would welcome a third glass.

    • Diane's Gravatar Diane
      March 25, 2021 - 12:43 pm | Permalink

      I too have the Sr. Bridget pint glass along with the Dietrich Bonhoeffer pint. An Arnulf would be a welcome addition to my collection.

      • Ann's Gravatar Ann
        March 25, 2021 - 5:09 pm | Permalink

        In 2016, I got the Bonhoeffer coffee mug from the Lentorium, but skipped the pint glass. And, yes, an “Arnulf Pint” would be just the thing for your collection. However, it looks as though “Ives” gets this round. Maybe another year

        • JustMeJo's Gravatar JustMeJo
          March 26, 2021 - 8:06 am | Permalink

          I, on the other hand, did get the Bonhoeffer pint glass rather than the coffee mug, due to the acquisition of far too many coffee mugs that were distributed at conventions in my working days…there are a plethora of institutions of higher learning in New York State!

  4. JustMeJo's Gravatar JustMeJo
    March 25, 2021 - 8:21 am | Permalink

    Yet another brilliant limerick to start the day! Craft beer snob that I’ve become in my old age, I managed to tamp down the urge at this early hour and cast my vote for a later with a great heart who fought for real justice.

    • JustMeJo's Gravatar JustMeJo
      March 25, 2021 - 8:23 am | Permalink

      Lawyer, dang you autocorrect!

  5. Gloria Ishida's Gravatar Gloria Ishida
    March 25, 2021 - 8:24 am | Permalink

    While i do love beer, I am a widow and voted for St. Ives. In deed of ongoing compassion.

    • Loretta's Gravatar Loretta
      March 25, 2021 - 8:32 am | Permalink

      I’ll balance your vote as your beer-loving daughter and lover of that CAR!

      • Debra K McLaughlin's Gravatar Debra K McLaughlin
        March 26, 2021 - 1:55 pm | Permalink

        That Uber car is the best! I must head to Houston and hoist a pint!!!!

  6. Vicar Mollie's Gravatar Vicar Mollie
    March 25, 2021 - 8:35 am | Permalink

    Love the kitsch for both—best set yet to bring a chuckle in the morning! St. Ives for me today.

  7. Donald MacLeod's Gravatar Donald MacLeod
    March 25, 2021 - 8:43 am | Permalink

    I had already decided to vote for Ives in recognition of his contribution to law and justice and the well balanced write-up helped to confirm my choice. On the other hand, St. Arnulf is not as well served by today’s discussion. The emphasis on kitsch detracts from his generous hospitality and the fact that encouragement of beer drinking was essentially a public health measure and probably saved many people from infection from a poor water supply.

    • Susan Lee Hauser's Gravatar Susan Lee Hauser
      March 25, 2021 - 11:22 am | Permalink

      This is the kitsch round. That’s the whole point!!

      • John Hitzeroth's Gravatar John Hitzeroth
        March 25, 2021 - 1:07 pm | Permalink

        I thought that was the whole “pint!”

        • Susan Lee Hauser's Gravatar Susan Lee Hauser
          March 25, 2021 - 2:29 pm | Permalink

          Haha!

    • James White's Gravatar James White
      March 25, 2021 - 11:53 am | Permalink

      Yes i would agree, great pick

  8. Chaplain's Gravatar Chaplain
    March 25, 2021 - 8:51 am | Permalink

    A vote for St. Ives. In our contentious, litigious time, lawyers NEED their patron saint.

    • Janet Jones's Gravatar Janet Jones
      March 25, 2021 - 2:18 pm | Permalink

      It all now is clear. We are in such trouble in the US. And we reveal the cause by voting for the patron Saint of lawyers over the patron Saint of brewers.

      • Diane's Gravatar Diane
        March 25, 2021 - 9:41 pm | Permalink

        LOL, But I voted for St. Ives out of respect for the lawyers that have helped me both directly and indirectly. The kind lawyer who helped me thru a divorce and kept it amicable and fair to us both. The many lawyers unknown to me whose advocacy and hard work has ensured that special needs children have educations and God bless those lawyers who advocate for civil rights daily.
        It doesn’t hurt that I dont like beer , either! LOL

  9. Belle's Gravatar Belle
    March 25, 2021 - 8:57 am | Permalink

    No contest for me. While I recognize the importance of alcohol in ancient times to provide safe beverages, and to sterilize wounds, in a pinch, alcohol is dehydrating — which rather defeats the purpose. It’s also a depressant, the last thing anyone needs. I’m a “less drinking, more thinking” advocate.

    “…dedication to the law and devotion to fairness while meshing with his faith…” wins it for me.

  10. Melanie's Gravatar Melanie
    March 25, 2021 - 8:59 am | Permalink

    I remembered that St Arnulf’s story was ever so much more than just beer, and even the part about beer was more about public health (the water wasn’t safe to drink) and less about partying. With some regret, I’m casting my vote for St Ives today because the good saint got lost in the alcohol today.

  11. Sue Goodman's Gravatar Sue Goodman
    March 25, 2021 - 9:02 am | Permalink

    As I was going to St Ives (that’s in Cornwall, UK, btw)
    I met a man with seven wives.
    Every wife had seven sacks
    Every sack had seven cats
    Every cat had seven kits.
    Kits, cats, sacks and wives –
    How many were going to St Ives?

    Answer – one (check the first line)

    Love the saintly kitsch week!

    • Verdery Kassebaum's Gravatar Verdery Kassebaum
      March 25, 2021 - 12:36 pm | Permalink

      Thank you, Sue Goodman, for posting the poem. It was the first thing that came to mind when I saw that St. Ives was a “contestant”.
      That isn’t the reason I voted for him, though it helped. My older son is a lawyer, one of the good ones, so I’ve been voting for Ives all along.

    • Donna Lou Ritter's Gravatar Donna Lou Ritter
      March 25, 2021 - 1:10 pm | Permalink

      I was looking for someone else who remembered the nursery rhyme. It was my first “kitschy” thought. Was surprised not to find it in the write-up.
      I vote for St. Ives–my husband is lawyer, retired–also one of the good ones. But also because of the nursery rhyme. But I do like good beer, especially our local “Two-hearted IPA” from Bell’s brewery.

      • Julia's Gravatar Julia
        March 26, 2021 - 7:55 am | Permalink

        Bell’s Two-Hearted is the best! It finally came back to us here in Virginia (I’m from the great state of Michigan) just a few months ago. Much rejoicing!

    • Tessa's Gravatar Tessa
      March 27, 2021 - 7:09 pm | Permalink

      Kitten season is rapidly approaching. If any of the Lent Madness group would like a kitten, or a cat with 7 kittens, I’m sure your local rescue or shelter can oblige. Often they need foster homes where a litter of kittens can stay for a few weeks between weaning and spay/neuter, to be socialized and to get used to being in a house. We have fostered many a litter in the last few years.

  12. Susan's Gravatar Susan
    March 25, 2021 - 9:06 am | Permalink

    Another tough one. With two JAGS in the family, I had to go with Ives.

    • Judy Artley's Gravatar Judy Artley
      March 26, 2021 - 6:34 am | Permalink

      I recall from the Round of 32 that St Ives of Kermartin and St Ives of Cornwall are different saints. (John Cabot’s excellent limericks are almost as sticky as nursery rhymes.) Here is the link, although no details on the St Ives of Cornwall: https://www.lentmadness.org/2021/03/jacapone-da-todi-vs-ives-of-kermartin/ According to Wkikpedia, St Ives of Cornwall is named for St Ia of Ireland–I may need 7 cats and 7 beers to explain how to get “Ives” from”Ia.”

  13. March 25, 2021 - 9:14 am | Permalink

    While I love the kitsch round, I make my decision based on information gleaned from the previous two rounds. Both are worthy candidates for the Golden Halo, but my vote will go to Ives, a lawyer who advocates for the poor and outcast.
    Fran

  14. Susan lewis's Gravatar Susan lewis
    March 25, 2021 - 9:25 am | Permalink

    I want to know where I can get a super cool St. Ives mug like that. Please, dear Lent Madness crew.

  15. Kitty's Gravatar Kitty
    March 25, 2021 - 9:42 am | Permalink

    I had to vote for the underdog. And I believe God has a sense of humor and a great love for the poor so Arnulf gets my vote today.

  16. Laura G's Gravatar Laura G
    March 25, 2021 - 9:42 am | Permalink

    While Arnulf’s kitsch is outstanding, I have to go with St. Ives, to honor my ancestral home in Cornwall .

  17. Miss Jan's Gravatar Miss Jan
    March 25, 2021 - 9:55 am | Permalink

    I like the car and believe I have had the root beer, but the amazing “beerings” with the image of the Saint on them were not pictured. Maybe the image of that particular kitsch would sway my vote away from Saint Ives, or maybe not. And speaking of St. Ives, I’m surprised that there was no mention of the skin care products company that shares his name.

    I’m voting for Saint Ives in hope that he might help me find some of the oh-so-elusive St Ives Fresh Skin Apricot Scrub.

    • Rodney Dudley's Gravatar Rodney Dudley
      March 25, 2021 - 10:16 am | Permalink

      Alas, this is probably why St. Ives Facial Scrub is not mentioned: Unfortunately for consumers, use of St. Ives as a facial exfoliant leads to long-term skin damage that greatly outweighs any potential benefits the product may provide. St. Ives’ primary exfoliating ingredient is crushed walnut shell, which has jagged edges that cause micro-tears in the skin when used in a scrub. (Jan 23, 2019)

      • Neva Rae Fox's Gravatar Neva Rae Fox
        March 25, 2021 - 10:39 am | Permalink

        That’s a different St Ives.

      • Tessa's Gravatar Tessa
        March 25, 2021 - 12:20 pm | Permalink

        The facial scrub equivalent of a hair shirt?

        I prefer the scrubs with walnut shell or apricot pits because they’re not releasing microplastics into the wastewater. Most exfoliant scrubs have plastic beads in them and they are horrible for the environment.

  18. Tammie's Gravatar Tammie
    March 25, 2021 - 9:55 am | Permalink

    Because my youngest son married the love of his life at the St Arnold’s brewery in Houston, it’s St Arnulf for me. It is a great place and that was a wonderful evening.

  19. simple village priest's Gravatar simple village priest
    March 25, 2021 - 10:05 am | Permalink

    I’m still drowning my sorrows over Arnulf’s upset victory over Egeria, and the world today is in sore need of compassionate advocates for the poor and oppressed, so Ives it is.

  20. Elizabeth's Gravatar Elizabeth
    March 25, 2021 - 10:23 am | Permalink

    Help! I need paint of root beer and a lawyer to help decide! I want to vote for both of them!!!!

  21. Donna Devlin's Gravatar Donna Devlin
    March 25, 2021 - 10:29 am | Permalink

    Lawyers need all the saintly help they can get! St. Ives for me today.

  22. Megan Devlin's Gravatar Megan Devlin
    March 25, 2021 - 10:29 am | Permalink

    Lawyers vs. beer drinkers? I think we’ll see you in court.

  23. Susan C.'s Gravatar Susan C.
    March 25, 2021 - 10:34 am | Permalink

    A tough one today! I even went back to read the original write-ups on both, through the group of 32. Still undecided, I’m going with the hope of another pint glass to go with my Bonhoeffer glass.

  24. Anna Barton's Gravatar Anna Barton
    March 25, 2021 - 10:43 am | Permalink

    I liked the St Ives hand lotion! But I voted for Ives because we do need more advocates for those oppressed and poor!

  25. March 25, 2021 - 10:45 am | Permalink

    I prefer less sweat and more of God’s love in my beer! This is always my favorite round of Lent Madness! Thanks to the bloggers for all their work digging up fun kitsch!

  26. susan h's Gravatar susan h
    March 25, 2021 - 11:02 am | Permalink

    I also went back to the original posts, and this seems like a dead-even match up. I went with Arnulf because he seemed to be more of the person I’d like to raise a glass with. And that CAR!!! Wow!

  27. beth's Gravatar beth
    March 25, 2021 - 11:06 am | Permalink

    i had to go back and look at the original entries for each, and the collect for Arnulf tipped it for me: “Give abundantly to all pastors the gifts of your Holy Spirit”.

  28. St. Celia's Gravatar St. Celia
    March 25, 2021 - 11:24 am | Permalink

    I covet that ArnoldMobile (outstanding job, David Hansen, and is that you holding the root beer?), but in the name of so many gunned down in the US, a country with no laws to protect people from mass murderers (unless they are brown immigrants, and then suddenly “law and order” and”freedom” are on the lips of every white supremacist senator), I call on St. Yves to establish some document, like . . . a “constitution,” for this failed state, one which would admit migrants and ban guns, that is, create A More Perfect Union for God’s people under the sun.

    • March 25, 2021 - 12:55 pm | Permalink

      Hear, hear! One of my best friends is an attorney serving on the border with Mexico to provide representation for those currently waiting for a resolution to their cases, so I am backing St. Ives in her honor, even though I do have a fondness for the occasional beer. I don’t know if I can get St. Arnold’s beer around here, but I’ll find out!

  29. JoJo's Gravatar JoJo
    March 25, 2021 - 11:29 am | Permalink

    Finally, Catherine is gone! Poor St. Ives must’ve been schizophrenic to have all those names. Enough said, Arnulf is the saint of the day, but I’ll wait til supper to celebrate with a glass of Yuengling.

  30. Katelyn Kenney's Gravatar Katelyn Kenney
    March 25, 2021 - 11:30 am | Permalink

    Listen, as someone raised just outside of Houston and a big fan of Saint Arnold’s Brewery, I gotta hold it down for H-Town and go with Arnie

  31. TJMannion's Gravatar TJMannion
    March 25, 2021 - 11:35 am | Permalink

    Too many lawyer lovers in this round! I’m a beer guy. Boo.

    • St. Celia's Gravatar St. Celia
      March 25, 2021 - 12:08 pm | Permalink

      You’ll be happy to know there is a Beer’s Law, which has to do with the absorbance of light in a liquid solution, originally wine, but applies to beer as well. You can have suds AND law!

  32. Charles Stuart's Gravatar Charles Stuart
    March 25, 2021 - 11:45 am | Permalink

    Another tough decision between eminent and saintly personages. As a beer-lover, I would naturally go with St Arnulf. However, my late father was a lawyer (and a fellow hops fancier) who for decades was a regional director in Ontario of Legal Aid, a publicly funded organization that provides legal assistance to low-income people. He was, therefore, quite literally an advocate for the poor. So, in honour of Dad, my vote is for St Ives.

  33. Linda Cook MacDonald's Gravatar Linda Cook MacDonald
    March 25, 2021 - 11:51 am | Permalink

    Today have I succumbed to St. Arnulf and beer, hospitality and levity. But friends, I love both of these guys, and actually St. Ives was first in my heart until I began to ponder the state of too many attorneys, whose practices could use more St. Ives and less me first. Just think of Sydney Powell. Now THERE is an attorney in need of St. Ives. But she is not the only one. So St. Arnulf got my vote today. Cheers!

  34. Rene Jamieson's Gravatar Rene Jamieson
    March 25, 2021 - 11:53 am | Permalink

    When the going gets tough, the tough make it personal. Yesterday, confronted with a choice between two excellent candidates for the Golden Halo, I went with Absalom in honour of my son the Mason. Today, finding myself in the same cleft stick, I’m going with Ives, in honour of my BFF – a lawyer who brings her brains, heart, deep wells of compassion and her profound Christian faith to bear in every case she takes on.

  35. A Jennifer's Gravatar A Jennifer
    March 25, 2021 - 11:55 am | Permalink

    Arnulf, for that car. It belongs in the Kitsch Hall of Fame.

  36. Susan Lee Hauser's Gravatar Susan Lee Hauser
    March 25, 2021 - 12:02 pm | Permalink

    I loved the kitsch for St. Arnulf, but my heart is with Ives today. This raises the quandary I always face in this round: Do I vote solely on the basis of the kitsch, or for the saint as I have come to know him or her up to this point? I was almost swayed by the car (way to go, David!), but I ended up voting for Ives on behalf of all the good-hearted lawyers in my family. And since looking after widows was one of the primary missions of the early church, Ives gets my vote, despite Arnulf’s superb kitsch.

  37. Fiona's Gravatar Fiona
    March 25, 2021 - 12:23 pm | Permalink

    Another great day of kitsch. The statue and the stamp won my vote to St Ives, but the car almost swayed me. Mustn’t let my beer brewing husband see it, he might decide to remodel the family car!

  38. david of S's Gravatar david of S
    March 25, 2021 - 12:24 pm | Permalink

    One requires beer when dealing with lawyers.

  39. Mark Willems's Gravatar Mark Willems
    March 25, 2021 - 12:34 pm | Permalink

    Not St. Ives, but Charles Ives.

    • Verdery Kassebaum's Gravatar Verdery Kassebaum
      March 25, 2021 - 12:46 pm | Permalink

      Wow! That’s Charles Ives, all right, sung by an impressive choir. Beautifully done, excellently enunciated. Thank you for posting this, Mark.

    • Susan Lee Hauser's Gravatar Susan Lee Hauser
      March 25, 2021 - 2:34 pm | Permalink

      That sounds s a challenging piece to sing! Kudos to the choir!

  40. Pamela Payne's Gravatar Pamela Payne
    March 25, 2021 - 1:20 pm | Permalink

    Raising a beer glass to two worthy saints who well-deserved the reception they received in Heaven. But today my vote goes to St. Ives and the law of compassion.

  41. Laura S's Gravatar Laura S
    March 25, 2021 - 1:20 pm | Permalink

    Ives hands down got my vote. The other lost me at beer (wicked brew!)

  42. Bea Fosmire's Gravatar Bea Fosmire
    March 25, 2021 - 1:22 pm | Permalink

    Thanks John Cabot. Just ordered my St. Ives mug….a gift for my attorney daughter. Also voted for her patron saint; hopefully I’ll get another when he wins the golden halo.

  43. MARY ROSA's Gravatar MARY ROSA
    March 25, 2021 - 1:28 pm | Permalink

    I AM VOTING FOR ST. IVES.

  44. Joyce M.'s Gravatar Joyce M.
    March 25, 2021 - 1:37 pm | Permalink

    I had to go with St. Ivo! My eldest son is a lawyer, and a graduate of Northwestern Law School, where St. Ives has a lovely statue. Every profession must have a patron saint1

  45. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    March 25, 2021 - 2:15 pm | Permalink

    A total miscarriage of Lent Madness Justice!

  46. Ralph's Gravatar Ralph
    March 25, 2021 - 2:41 pm | Permalink

    In honor of my favorite “Holier than thou” monastery ale at the Friar’s Brewhouse in Bucksport, Maine, I have to go with Saint Arnulf.

  47. Patsleepslate's Gravatar Patsleepslate
    March 25, 2021 - 4:16 pm | Permalink

    More kind words for a lawyer! No contest here!

  48. Joanne Campbell's Gravatar Joanne Campbell
    March 25, 2021 - 4:36 pm | Permalink

    Beer wins over lawyers!

  49. Kathy Alyea's Gravatar Kathy Alyea
    March 25, 2021 - 4:52 pm | Permalink

    I didn’t think these entries added much to the knowledge of either saint, so I went back to the original comments, and in the process discovered that Arnulf of Metz is my 41 x great grandfather! So of course I had to vote for him. Sorry he lost, but family…. you get it!

  50. Sylvia Miller-Mutia's Gravatar Sylvia Miller-Mutia
    March 25, 2021 - 7:25 pm | Permalink

    In the legal profession he is
    Venerated by faithful and faithless alike.
    Encouraging
    Sharing

  51. Linda Maloney's Gravatar Linda Maloney
    March 25, 2021 - 8:07 pm | Permalink

    My daughter is a Philadelphia lawyer! How can I not vote for St. Ives?!

  52. Nora's Gravatar Nora
    March 25, 2021 - 10:03 pm | Permalink

    Skull for the win!

  53. Kim Gray's Gravatar Kim Gray
    March 26, 2021 - 7:38 am | Permalink

    The Gray Household Couplet
    If your life’s in upheaval, an ale will not do;
    Vote for Ives’ justice and not Arnulf’s brew

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