Benedict the Moor vs. Ives of Kermartin

Welcome to the Faithful Four! From an initial field of 32 saints, we have sliced the field down to four saints. Only one of whom will be crowned with the 2021 Golden Halo. It’s all comes down to Benedict the Moor, who faces Ives of Kermartin today and Catherine of Genoa, who squares off against Absalom Jones tomorrow. Then on Spy Wednesday, the two remaining titans of faith will compete for the ultimate prize, with the winner being announced at 8:00 am Eastern time on Maundy Thursday.

To get to this round, Benedict defeated Nino of Georgia, Euphrosyne, and Camillus de Lellis. While Ives took down Jacapone da Todi, Dunstan, and Arnulf of Metz.

After learning about our saintly heroes via basic bios, quirks and quotes, and even kitsch, in this round, we let our remaining Celebrity Bloggers loose as they answer the question “Why should Saint XX win the Golden Halo?” In other words, they’ve been charged with letting us know why their particular saint is so awesome. We have also invited them to share their two favorite images of their saints.

Let’s get this Faithful Four party started!

Benedict the Moor

When it came time to choose who I would advocate for this year, Benedict of Palermo (Benedict the Moor / African) practically jumped off the page.

Here was a man of African descent, raised in a European community as a racial and ethnic minority. A man who endured hardship, mocking, and discrimination because he did not look like the people around him.

And yet, Benedict found his way.

He found a way to be more than an exception or an outlier. He became a valued member and leader in his community. Benedict was elevated to Superior of his community and served admirably as a leader. In other seasons, he took his place alongside his brothers as equals. He found a way in which he was able to participate in the beloved community – not a token or a curiosity, but valued for the practical talents and spiritual gifts he brought.

Benedict found his way as he turned away from resentment and toward service. Whether cooking for his brothers or healing a traveler or consoling a widow, Benedict’s gifts made every community he participated in better. His life of prayer stirred him to compassion for all who suffered. In our world today, we need more of Benedict’s way of compassion and service.

Benedict found a way to use his heart and his hands – his faith and his action – to give witness to what the life of discipleship looks like. Meditating in the hermitage and cooking for visitors, praying in the room and healing from the bushes. In our world today we need Benedict’s way of active contemplation and contemplative action.

And then, Benedict found a way to remind us of humanity. As the world debated the humanity and belovedness of persons of African descent, Benedict’s legacy shone brightly as a refuation of those who would deny the humanity of enslaved Africans. Here stood Benedict – intelligent and compassionate, capable and insightful – the opposite of every 19th century white/European depiction of Africans. In our world today we need Benedict’s way to remind us of the folly and error of denying the full humanity of our siblings.

Following a pandemic and numerous Civil Rights moments; following generations of quietism and the separation of our faith from our public lives; following a vile heritage of enslavement, Jim Crow, redlining, and mass incarceration, we need to find our way. Let us look to Benedict and his way of service, humility, prayer, and dignity.

One more legacy of Benedict remains. Jutting out into the Mediterranean, the island of Sicily is a natural landing place for immigrants. There, in the middle of a global crisis of migration, the town of Palermo has become a place of welcome, refuge, and safety for African migrants. Towering over the soccer fields in Palermo where the children of immigrants play, a giant mural of Benedict the African smiles and offers his blessing.

–David Hansen

Ives of Kermartin

Throughout this Lent Madness season, I learned a lot about St. Ives. I had a passing familiarity with him through the St. Ives celebration honoring legal professionals sponsored by the Diocese of New York.

My research into St. Ives proved the impact of his service to society over the past 700 years. As I delved into his life, ministry and contributions, I was impressed with his quiet leadership, his refusal to give up, his arms ever extended to the poor and downtrodden, his deep devotion to living his faith, his lifelong perseverance and temerity.

He was a priest. He was a lawyer.  He was exemplary in both.

He is the patron saint and a guiding star to the legal profession, which honors him worldwide.

I was touched by his dedication to helping the disadvantaged, defending the poor, never turning his back on the needy and destitute, and his commitment to representing the underprivileged, in both civil courts and in church courts.

He braved new frontiers in his legal endeavors. As the “bishop’s judge,” he took this role seriously.

His was not a glossy life.  Ives never sought the spotlight. He donated all his earnings to help the poor.

In a time when it was common to take bribes, Ives refused.

In a time when much of the populace was poor and downtrodden, Ives defended them, often pro bono.

I was struck with the words of Pope John Paul II in 2003, calling Ives “a figure who was able to combine a social role and an ecclesial mission, drawing from his spiritual life the strength for action and for the unification of his being.”

The pope aptly saw Ives as “someone who devoted his whole life to serving Christ in serving the poor, as a magistrate, lawyer, and priest. St. Ivo was involved in defending the principles of justice and equity.”

An image of Ives says it all. He is often depicted with a money bag, representing his donations to the poor, and a scroll, signifying the law.

In this world of so much strife, so much discourse, we can look to St. Ives as a role model for today.  Ives is an example of a life well-lived in the spirit of Christ. He is an example of a life that transcends the ages.

I learned a lot about St. Ives during this Lent Madness season. And I am thankful for his enduring example of fairness and faith.

–Neva Rae Fox

Benedict the Moor vs. Ives of Kermartin

  • Benedict the Moor (69%, 4,303 Votes)
  • Ives of Kermartin (31%, 1,898 Votes)

Total Voters: 6,201

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79 Comments to "Benedict the Moor vs. Ives of Kermartin"

  1. Kate Cabot's Gravatar Kate Cabot
    March 29, 2021 - 8:03 am | Permalink

    Benedict The Moor:
    Healer, welcomes the stranger
    Cooks with the angels.

  2. Lee Greenawaltl's Gravatar Lee Greenawaltl
    March 29, 2021 - 8:16 am | Permalink

    The recent events in Georgia and in 43 states caused me to vote for Benedict as a much needed saintly figure for this year.

    • Richard Dorn's Gravatar Richard Dorn
      March 29, 2021 - 11:46 am | Permalink

      Amen!!

  3. Susan Siems's Gravatar Susan Siems
    March 29, 2021 - 8:43 am | Permalink

    Thank you SO much for all the work everyone puts in creating Lent Madness each year! This is my 3rd or 4th year avidly following and voting and it is a wonderful adjunct to my devotions. It has helped me make Lent a “set aside” time for more meaningful reflection. (On another note, it has convinced me not to take up online betting!) Thank you!

    • Mary Beth Smith's Gravatar Mary Beth Smith
      March 29, 2021 - 9:07 am | Permalink

      Yes, Susan, very much agree! And very well said. It is an important part of my Lenten reflection. Thank you to the committee for all of your hard work!

    • March 29, 2021 - 9:23 am | Permalink

      Amen, Susan! I’m not sure if it is five or six years for me, but each has been enjoyable and also aided my reflections and enlarged my knowledge.

      Here’s to you, SEC, I toast you with a mug of St. Arnold’s beer!

  4. Cath Fenton's Gravatar Cath Fenton
    March 29, 2021 - 8:50 am | Permalink

    A difficult one today, both are worthy of acclaim.

  5. Jane Bucci's Gravatar Jane Bucci
    March 29, 2021 - 8:50 am | Permalink

    With Holy Cross Monastery on my mind – Benedict it is. Blessings through this Holy Week All.

  6. Belle's Gravatar Belle
    March 29, 2021 - 9:00 am | Permalink

    I’m certain that Benedict will win this round, and that’s well and good. I voted for Ives because he was a member of the majority population in his location who did not take advantage of his privilege but devoted himself to those who had none. For those of us who are not BIPOC, Ives stands as an example of how to do the same. I feel that he deserves a good showing, even if he doesn’t win this one.

    Seems to me that all of the Final Four are worthy of the Golden Halo, so we’re in the “honored just to have made it this far” arena.

    Note to David Hansen: with respect, this: “As the world debated the humanity and belovedness of persons of African descent…” is a concerning passage. How do you define “the world”? Because, if you’re referring to the 19th century, you’re only addressing people in European and European-descended communities. There were a lot of people in the world who would never have questioned the humanity and belovedness of any person, inside or outside of the Christian sphere of influence — including many people of European ancestry. If you’re referring to governments and those in power — again, this was largely a question for parts of Europe and the Americas. BTW it’s worth noting that Canada began passing anti-slavery and anti-trafficking laws in the 1790s, even before the 19th century began (full abolition came to the British Empire in 1833). So, only “the world” if the world just includes certain European powers that were still involved in the African slave trade, and those strongly influenced by them.

    Side note: there are over 40 million enslaved people in the world today, according to the Walk Free Global Slavery Index. An estimated 71 percent of them are women. See https://www.globalslaveryindex.org/ (I’m unaffiliated)

    • March 29, 2021 - 9:26 am | Permalink

      Thanks, Belle, for the information and your insights. We white folks continually make the mistake of thinking only of ourselves when we refer to “the world” and other generalizations. We need to step back and widen our frames of reference.

    • Mary Ryan's Gravatar Mary Ryan
      March 29, 2021 - 9:30 am | Permalink

      What is BIPOC?

      • Vicar Mollie's Gravatar Vicar Mollie
        March 29, 2021 - 10:36 am | Permalink

        Black/Indigenous/People of Color?

      • Miss Jan's Gravatar Miss Jan
        March 29, 2021 - 10:37 am | Permalink

        Black, Indigenous, People Of Color.

      • Tara Soughers's Gravatar Tara Soughers
        March 29, 2021 - 10:39 am | Permalink

        Black, Indigenous, People of Color

      • Juanita Janeczko's Gravatar Juanita Janeczko
        March 29, 2021 - 1:03 pm | Permalink

        BIPOC is the acronym for Black, indigenous, people of color.

    • Marian the Lutheran's Gravatar Marian the Lutheran
      March 29, 2021 - 10:08 am | Permalink

      Belle, you put the things I was feeling in to such much more elegant words than my mind was yelling. St. Ives, to me, embodies more of what we need in these times – compassion and fairness from our judiciary branch and an understanding that the image of God is in all humans and they should all be treated with love and compassion without resorting to bribes or rhetoric.
      I also often remind people that the world still condones in one way or another the continued enslavement of people and especially women. Thank you for pointing that out.

    • madameseñora's Gravatar madameseñora
      March 29, 2021 - 1:00 pm | Permalink

      Well stated, Belle.

    • Sandra's Gravatar Sandra
      March 29, 2021 - 1:08 pm | Permalink

      Thank you. This is mainly why I voted for him too — notwithstanding that I am also a lawyer and Vice Chancellor!

    • Sandra's Gravatar Sandra
      March 29, 2021 - 2:25 pm | Permalink

      Thanks, Belle, for your response. I agree with you. I must point out, though, that while the Abolition Bill was indeed signed in England in 1833, Emancipation was not declared until 1834 and was not a reality in the British West Indies until some time later. A four year “apprenticeship scheme” left the former slaves no better off. In fact, it served to disadvanatge many of them even more as they became responsible for feeding and clothing themselves while often working without pay as they supposedly learned a trade. And then the former slave owners received reparations for their loss of property, with the final payments being made only recently, while the former slaves continued to eke out a living on the plantations .

      • Sandra (not VC)'s Gravatar Sandra (not VC)
        March 29, 2021 - 2:26 pm | Permalink

        (This Sandra is not the Vice Chancellor.)

  7. Fiona's Gravatar Fiona
    March 29, 2021 - 9:06 am | Permalink

    Agonising choice today. I would like to vote for both, but opted for St Ives. In part my decision was based on an expectation that Ives, whilst a hugely signifiacnt figure resonates less with the times we live in and I wouldn’t like him to be too far behind, and in part because when the systems of governement are corrupt, we have no option but to turn to an idenpedent judiciary. When law firms in the UK are crowdfunding to hold the government to account, we are in trouble. We need Ives’ integrity and compassion in public life.

  8. david's Gravatar david
    March 29, 2021 - 9:24 am | Permalink

    “We want Moor! We want Moor!”#gobenedictgo

    • #gobenedictgo's Gravatar #gobenedictgo
      March 29, 2021 - 9:28 am | Permalink

      “We want Moor! We want Moor”. Very much agreed.

  9. March 29, 2021 - 9:28 am | Permalink

    Hear, hear, we have four wonderful semifinalists to choose between. I will be selfish, and pick Benedict to help my bracket and also to thank him for lending me his angels to help out in my kitchen. My wife is appreciating the newly heavenly fare I’m putting out.

    • Jaquavious's Gravatar Jaquavious
      March 29, 2021 - 10:43 am | Permalink

      Honestly wanted Ives. @thechalicebearer what’s up dood. How you doing today man?

  10. Mama J's Gravatar Mama J
    March 29, 2021 - 9:44 am | Permalink

    Thank you, David! You ‘found a way’ to garner my vote for Benedict who always ‘found a way.’ ‘There is always a way’ has, of late, become a mantra for me. Your championing of Benedict ha s sealed the deal in so many facets of daily life and interactions.

  11. Jim Willse's Gravatar Jim Willse
    March 29, 2021 - 9:50 am | Permalink

    Benedict’s appeal was ineluctable,
    His saintliness indestructible.
    A servant of the poor,
    The body of the Moor
    Remains forever incorruptible.

    • Susan Lee Hauser's Gravatar Susan Lee Hauser
      March 29, 2021 - 10:51 am | Permalink

      Oh, good one!

  12. LGW's Gravatar LGW
    March 29, 2021 - 9:56 am | Permalink

    Particularly difficult choice today. I was struck by the challenge of choosing between a man of minority status in his community who “ found his way as he turned away from resentment towards service” and a man of privilege who “was a member of the majority population who did not take advantage of his privilege but dedicated himself to those who had none”. We need more Benedicts and Ives in our community today.

    • Claire Huff's Gravatar Claire Huff
      March 29, 2021 - 12:34 pm | Permalink

      You are so right. Ives reached down to lift up the poor and marginalized – using his privilege, learning and status. Benedict, holy, humble and multi- talented in the most basic of domestic arts – reached out to everyone – even to those who might have mistrusted him because of his race. We need more of these persons in the world today. Can I split my vote? Guess not, so I’m voting for Benedict.

  13. Elizabeth Byrd's Gravatar Elizabeth Byrd
    March 29, 2021 - 10:00 am | Permalink

    The integrity of the powers that be is vital.
    So is the steady perseverance in the face of repression.
    Good lawyers can help but, in the end, the repressed must persevere.
    So, Benedict get my vote today.

  14. March 29, 2021 - 10:05 am | Permalink

    As the co-founder of a retreat house, Benedict the Moor, that soul of hospitality and service, has my vote today and my prayers to help as we strive to match his generosity to pilgrims and those seeking a haven.

  15. Rene Jamieson's Gravatar Rene Jamieson
    March 29, 2021 - 10:05 am | Permalink

    Although it would seem that this year’s Golden Halo will go to either Benedict the Moor or Absalom Jones, I cast my vote today for Ives of Kermartin, a priest and a lawyer who used his privilege to raise up others. A fitting saint for our times. On the other hand, I’m pulling for Absalom for the coveted Halo because in 2021 because, judging by recent events in Georgia, his fight is nowhere near won. Quite frankly, when it gets down to the final four choices, there’s really not a pin to choose between them. They are all faithful servants of God and great exemplars for the rest of us.

  16. Kitty's Gravatar Kitty
    March 29, 2021 - 10:06 am | Permalink

    Benedict helped the poor and was good in the kitchen, he gets my vote.

  17. JoJo's Gravatar JoJo
    March 29, 2021 - 10:06 am | Permalink

    Easiest choice all season, let’s get shed of the lawyer and embrace the Moor,

  18. Jack Zamboni's Gravatar Jack Zamboni
    March 29, 2021 - 10:24 am | Permalink

    An active contemplative and a contemplative in action who was a Franciscan and also a cook. Benedict appeals to me on so many different levels, even as I have great respect for Ives and his example of what good lawyering looks like.

  19. Peggy Nelson's Gravatar Peggy Nelson
    March 29, 2021 - 10:25 am | Permalink

    Sticking with my lawyer Dad today for Ives.
    They were both caring for those who were deemed less than and gave more of themselves to their communities with no thought of reward for themselves. Plus my Dad was a cradle Episcopalian snd he snoozed through many of a sermon, he put the well being of people before the purse.

  20. LA's Gravatar LA
    March 29, 2021 - 10:38 am | Permalink

    It’s interesting (to me, at least) how different days and rounds are difficult for varying reasons. I’m guessing (and kinda hoping, it appears) that Benedict will take this round. Incorruptible remains (which I find creepy) aside, he’s had my vote the whole way as has Yves. Admirable and endearing (and those two words fall so very short, but for the brain fog no better ones are coming to mind at the moment).

    Yet in my present circumstances of feeling like I need an advocate (more medically than legally) in systems that are set up to run roughshod over me (and too many others), I thought I’d cast one more vote for St. Yves this year…

  21. Vicar Mollie's Gravatar Vicar Mollie
    March 29, 2021 - 10:42 am | Permalink

    Really hard choice today! I confess I just closed my eyes and tapped till a button lit up. Ives.

    I’m such a coward.

    • Barbara Brooks's Gravatar Barbara Brooks
      March 29, 2021 - 11:20 am | Permalink

      You may have solved my problem, Vicar Mollie. I thought going in I would vote for Ives, since I’m a huge fan of the rule of law (and honorable lawyers.) But then again, Benedict speaks to me and our times and David Hansen’s write-up was exceptionally good. I prepare my (possibly cowardly) fickle finger of fate.

  22. William Stockbridge's Gravatar William Stockbridge
    March 29, 2021 - 10:50 am | Permalink

    I was all for St. Ives to take the win but such great writing and perspective on Benedict. I’m changing my vote to Benedict, he is def the saint we need this year!

  23. Dianne's Gravatar Dianne
    March 29, 2021 - 10:52 am | Permalink

    I knew that Benedict would win and in so many ways he deserved it but Belle expressed my feelings exactly. We need people like St. Ives who was unafraid to do justice where it was due.

  24. Gaen M.'s Gravatar Gaen M.
    March 29, 2021 - 10:52 am | Permalink

    Thank you David Hansen for that moving tribute to Benedict of Palermo. You have eloquently expressed all that I’ve been thinking about as I have further researched Benedict every time he’s come up in a bracket this year, including the crossroads we are at as a nation and the work we each need to do as individuals to end systemic racism and the ways I know I need to better orient my life (I am needing this reminder) towards compassion and service, contemplation and action. There’s so much depth in your short description, I know I’ll be re-reading it as I move through my week. Thank you for laying out such a dense spiritual feast.

  25. St. Celia's Gravatar St. Celia
    March 29, 2021 - 10:59 am | Permalink

    Well written, both bloggers. It’s holy week, and we can now see the spires of Canterbury. I will be sorry to see LM end for another year, but I’m sure the SEC and bloggers will now turn their attention to Easter and the demands of its liturgies. Thank you so much for all you have done to aid this little company of pilgrims through another COVID Lent. I am aware of the temptation to be part of voting two black men into the final round for the Golden Halo; it’s a “good look” for the community. But what moves me in this round is the dual global need for action on behalf of migrants and good public policy girded by a sound legal system. Justice. May honest lawyers and journalists thrive. The image of Palermo as a city welcoming desperate migrants, and the phrasing of John Paul II, “unification of being,” both resonate with me. May contemporary democracies actually become so, and unify equity and justice in their political structures and social commitments. I voted for Ives, for laws that meet people where they are and enhance fellow feeling and a vibrant public life.

    • Carol Buckalew's Gravatar Carol Buckalew
      March 29, 2021 - 11:29 am | Permalink

      You’ve convinced me. I’m choosing Ives for the reasons you said.

  26. Judith E. Davita-Rauch's Gravatar Judith E. Davita-Rauch
    March 29, 2021 - 11:15 am | Permalink

    Wow! I knew it would get harder, but not this hard. What swung it for Ives is that people need an advocate often times merely to be seen. Just to be seen. That he represented those who needed help whether or not they mattered to anyone else is incredibly important then, and now. Both are good people, but I also don’t know if Benedict felt resentment to overcome, I just know that I wou feel all kinds things I’d have to overcome.

  27. Sarah Noble's Gravatar Sarah Noble
    March 29, 2021 - 11:25 am | Permalink

    2021 is my first year of Lent Madness and thanks to everyone for making it a great experience! The SEC and the Celebrity Bloggers were great–and the comments were spot on. Thanks for bringing some lesser-known saints into the bracket–I learned about many for the first time, not bad for an eighty-something year old female. I’m already thinking of saints for 2022. Again, thanks and whoever wins the Golden Halo deserves it!

  28. Tiffany's Gravatar Tiffany
    March 29, 2021 - 11:25 am | Permalink

    Ives for me. I’m thinking of the real-life circumstances of those in “Just Mercy” and also of the fictional Jean Valjean stealing a loaf of bread. The poor and those viewed as inherently suspicious or guilty need a good lawyer to advocate for them. “Will you strive for justice and peace among all people, and respect the dignity of every human being?” St. Ives lived out this baptismal covenant.

  29. Laura Mahaney's Gravatar Laura Mahaney
    March 29, 2021 - 11:29 am | Permalink

    As a Franciscan tertiary, I’m excited to see two Franciscan tertiaries in the final four along with a first order brother. So you could say the real winner is Saint Francis of Assisi. Between Brother Benedict and Brother Ives, I’m sticking with my order and going with St. Ives.

  30. Rita Pino Vargas's Gravatar Rita Pino Vargas
    March 29, 2021 - 11:47 am | Permalink

    Another Lenten Madness ending too soon.

    Happy days everyone until we meet again!!!!

  31. Ann's Gravatar Ann
    March 29, 2021 - 11:56 am | Permalink

    I love Sicily so Benedict it is.

  32. Bea Fosmire's Gravatar Bea Fosmire
    March 29, 2021 - 12:05 pm | Permalink

    Still sticking with Ives in honor of my attorney daughter. How great it would be to see a saintly lawyer with a golden halo! I also promised my daughter a mug if St. Ives won. Thanks to all who make Lent Madness a fun, informative Lenten journey.

  33. Verdery Kassebaum's Gravatar Verdery Kassebaum
    March 29, 2021 - 12:07 pm | Permalink

    Impressive write-ups for both! Both were concerned about and worked for others, each in his own sphere. Instead of flipping a coin, I looked at “who’s ahead”. Benedict was well in front, so I voted for Ives.
    And, as the illustrious members of the SEC remind us, each of these “contestants” has already gotten their Golden Halo.

  34. Melissa's Gravatar Melissa
    March 29, 2021 - 12:14 pm | Permalink

    I have really appreciated Lenten Madness this year. I have learned so much and identified new saints that have inspired me to learn more about their Christian journeys. As a postulant to the Diaconate, I have learned about so many lives to admire and emulate. I wish I could go back and buy the “booklet” for each year of Lenten Madness!! Could such a thing be possible?
    At least I am going to print out the images of these inspiring saints and slip them into my Saint book. 🙂

    A HUGE THANK YOU to the celebrity bloggers, who faced such a difficult challenge in this year of 2021. Many hearts have been peeled open by the sufferings of 2020, so I pray fervently that our open hearts may be filled with the healing love and inspiration of the Holy Spirit, especially through the example of these Spirit-filled lives from the great cloud of Witnesses.

    • Katharine in Iceland's Gravatar Katharine in Iceland
      March 29, 2021 - 4:53 pm | Permalink

      Melissa — a booklet for each year’s write-ups would be a wonderful addition to the Lentorium!

  35. Donice Gilliland's Gravatar Donice Gilliland
    March 29, 2021 - 12:32 pm | Permalink

    Benedict for me. I predict the halo will go to Benedict or Absalom, and that will be the hardest vote I ever cast in Lent Madness!

  36. Chaplainq's Gravatar Chaplainq
    March 29, 2021 - 12:38 pm | Permalink

    Agony! Two very worthy candidates, two very thoughtful reflections extolling their gifts and graces.
    Want to echo the appreciation for the bloggers’ creativity and dedication to illuminating this experience. May their reward be great (if not their pay).

  37. Sheilah Johnson's Gravatar Sheilah Johnson
    March 29, 2021 - 12:44 pm | Permalink

    The way my parish plays we choose the entire bracket by Ash Wednesday and support our candidate for the Golden Halo throughout. I chose Ives of Kermartin to win it all but it looks like he’s going down to Benedict the Moor today, who is also a great Saint. I chose Ives because we still struggle with, “how much justice can you afford “ syndrome. The difference between OJ Simpson and George Floyd, ex. On a rare occasion the “little guy” will win but it’s rare that the rich and powerful loose. We need a whole lot more Ives of Kermartin. Go Ives!

  38. Bonnie Gossett's Gravatar Bonnie Gossett
    March 29, 2021 - 1:04 pm | Permalink

    Such a wonderful thing is Lent Madness. The SEC, bloggers,and commenters have meant so much to a 78 year old semi forced shut-in this year. I am ready to return to my church for the first time in over aa year on Good Friday. You will all be in my prayers during this next year. “See” you all again then.

  39. March 29, 2021 - 2:00 pm | Permalink

    I had expected to vote for Benedict, but “Justice. Justice, justice thou shalt pursue” – had to vote for Ives.

  40. Susan Lee Hauser's Gravatar Susan Lee Hauser
    March 29, 2021 - 2:10 pm | Permalink

    For lawyers and judges, I give thanks. So often in the past four years it has been the courts that saved us from one societal horror to the next. I will never forget the sight of volunteer lawyers lined up at the airport gates to protect immigrants from deportation when the Muslim travel ban was enacted. It made my heart soar! I am grateful as well to judges who overturned so many harmful and backward lawsuits in this time we’re slogging through. Thank God for those whose passion is justice! What would Jesus do indeed.

    Still… as I reflect on this new acronym we’ve learned this year—BIPOC—I am also reflecting every day on my white privilege and all the ways I benefit in society but usually never notice. This weighs heavily on me, and although it won’t assuage my guilt, I am voting for Benedict for his courage in swimming upstream, and his determination to follow God’s call no matter where it took him.

    • St. Celia's Gravatar St. Celia
      March 29, 2021 - 2:37 pm | Permalink

      One door that such a sense of “guilt” (a “conviction of sin”) opens, it seems to me, is a new opportunity for the church to reflect together on what it means to be the “body of Christ,” what that entails in terms of “corporate” worship and “corporate” responsibility–and what blessings that might open for us as “the people of God.” How can we imagine ourselves, together, as a new (renewed) whole, including all manner of brethren, species, matter, and media?

      • Susan Lee Hauser's Gravatar Susan Lee Hauser
        March 29, 2021 - 6:45 pm | Permalink

        You’re right. Guilt is useless unless it motivates one to metanoia!

  41. Linda Nichols's Gravatar Linda Nichols
    March 29, 2021 - 2:58 pm | Permalink

    Out of many worthy saints, I am surprised and pleased to see a lawyer in the Faithful Four. Lawyers have such a bad reputation that it’s refreshing to see one so honored. My late husband was a lawyer; he was a man who was not motivated by money but by justice. In his memory and honor, I could not but vote for Ives

  42. MARY ROSA's Gravatar MARY ROSA
    March 29, 2021 - 4:53 pm | Permalink

    I AM VOTING FOR BENEDICT THE MOOR, WITH ST. IVES AT THIRD BASE.

  43. Linda McGee's Gravatar Linda McGee
    March 29, 2021 - 5:46 pm | Permalink

    As a Benedictine oblate, I was impressed with what David Hansen wrote about Benedict the Moor. Benedict epitomizes the virtues of a Benedictine monk. He cooks, consoles, and heals those who are in need. Benedict the Moor for the Golden Halo!

  44. Spyridon the Thaumaturge, J.D., Esq.'s Gravatar Spyridon the Thaumaturge, J.D., Esq.
    March 29, 2021 - 5:50 pm | Permalink

    There is a hint of patronizing racism in giving Benedict the tile “The Moor.” (Sometimes called “the Black” or “The African”) Ives was a lawyer from Bretagne. We do not call him “Ives the Breton,” a minority ethnic/linguistic group in France, or “Ives the White.” St. Martin de Porres, a person of color, is not called “The Mixed-Race.” St. Kateri Tekakwitha is not called “The Mohawk” or “The Indian.” The fascination with Benedict’s racial identity detracts from his kindness and quiet holiness. Why not call him “Benedict the Comforter” or, like Ives, for his hometown, “Benedict of San Fratello” or “Benedict of Palermo”? Must we also not recognize that Ives’s holiness was from his work as a lawyer? I vote for “Ives the Lawyer,” f.k.a. “Ives of Kermartin.”

  45. Kim's Gravatar Kim
    March 29, 2021 - 6:05 pm | Permalink

    Kudos to the celebrity bloggers! I am wrestling with my vote today as a result of your fine writing. No easy choice, this one.

  46. Laura Schick's Gravatar Laura Schick
    March 29, 2021 - 6:17 pm | Permalink

    Benedict had me at “…overcoming resentments at being marginalized” this saint for all Saints made the best of his life by devotion to a True Christian walk. Benedict deserves a triple golden halo.

  47. Gloria Ishida's Gravatar Gloria Ishida
    March 29, 2021 - 7:25 pm | Permalink

    I voted for St. Ives as I did before, although Benedict is commendable. Yes, I did try to place them in today’e situations and how to express myself. I can only concur with others who have done it so well. Ives it is.

  48. Sylvia Miller-Mutia's Gravatar Sylvia Miller-Mutia
    March 29, 2021 - 8:03 pm | Permalink

    Black skinned holiness
    Ever helping those in
    Need
    Eternal Optimism, ever praying
    Devoted to God
    In all things courageous
    Cooking with angels
    Ta Da!

    (Friends & Members of St. Marks ABQ, with inspiration from Kate Cabot)

    • Kate Cabot's Gravatar Kate Cabot
      March 29, 2021 - 8:57 pm | Permalink

      Ta Da!

      Wonderful, Sylvia! Thank you! And go Benedict!

  49. Linda Fuson's Gravatar Linda Fuson
    March 30, 2021 - 12:13 am | Permalink

    The only one in this round who I voted for in the first round was Benedict. Sticking with the one I came with to the party.

  50. Miss Jan's Gravatar Miss Jan
    March 30, 2021 - 12:51 am | Permalink

    There do not seem to be any credits as to where the images came from. Are they public domain? Who is the artist of the painting of Ives of Kermartin? Google comes up pretty empty for any info on it.

    For the statue of Benedict of Palermo, FranciscanMedia dot org tells me it is at the “Church of Our Lady of the Rosary and Saint Benedict, Cuiabá, Mato Grosso, Brazil.” And while I didn’t really find anything about the icon of Benedict that’s in that mural in Palermo that David Hansen writes about, I did find a couple of other cool icons of him, one if which features him holding a whole bunch of loaves of bread in his arms.

    Now back to Ives of Kermartin. The statue of him that is pictured is one of many statues on the Charles Bridge (“Karluv Most” in Czech) in Prague, Czech Republic.

    And if you want to explore all the statues on that bridge . . . (you should see an embedded Google Maps image below . . . if not, just look up “Karluv Most” in Prague on Google Maps and drop penman down on one end of the bridge and click your way across the river) . . .

    [googlemaps https://www.google.com/maps/embed?pb=!4v1617079703296!6m8!1m7!1sph-EshTbg4OjlCBAt24kSQ!2m2!1d50.08624764496608!2d14.41321529007715!3f244.74145792671962!4f19.8429329009694!5f0.7820865974627469&w=600&h=450%5D

  51. Kim Gray's Gravatar Kim Gray
    March 30, 2021 - 7:36 am | Permalink

    The Gray Household, composed and written by A4 (age 9)
    we voted for Ives
    it was almost a tie
    they both did strive
    but Benedict had more

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